The National Rifle Association has signaled that it will meet with GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, but that it will not back off from its position on the “no fly, no buy” policy of the Obama administration, which validates the anonymous terror watchlist.

“We are happy to meet with Donald Trump,” said head of the NRA’s Institute for Legislative Action Chris Cox. “The NRA’s position on this issue has not changed.”

“The NRA believes that terrorists should not be allowed to purchase or possess firearms, period,” he added. “Anyone on a terror watch list who tries to buy a gun should be thoroughly investigated by the FBI and the sale delayed while the investigation is ongoing. If an investigation uncovers evidence of terrorist activity or involvement, the government should be allowed to immediately go to court, block the sale, and arrest the terrorist.”

He then spoke to the issue that most concerns me when these things come up, and that is names of people who are wrongly put on the watchlist.

“At the same time, due process protections should be put in place that allow law-abiding Americans who are wrongly put on a watch list to be removed,” he said. “That has been the position of Sen. John Cornyn (R., Texas) and a majority of the U.S. Senate.”

As far as I can tell, the terror watch list is unconstitutional. It does not find anyone to be in violation of the law and yet, the NRA is seeking to infringe on the rights of people that have apparently committed no crime, in a similar manner to what the Obama administration has been espousing, but has failed to actually justify.

While the NRA does claim that due process is in order to those wrongly placed on the watch list, it fails to understand that there is no due process when one is suspected to be guilty when they haven’t even been indicted! If my name appears on the watch list without any criminal charge, why should I be forced through due process? If there is no indictment against me, why should I have to hire an attorney and waste my money to defend myself against allegations for which I have not been arrested? It is a clear violation of the Fifth Amendment!

The NRA has a long history of compromising the rights of the American people. You can see this documented thoroughly in Felix Bronstein’s excellent piece here.

We already know that many people have been put on this list illegally and their rights have been violated by a criminal government in the name of security. Here are just a few examples.

Please keep in mind that this is the same government whose own unconstitutional Homeland Security Department failed to catch 72 employees who were on this particular terror watchlist.

Donald Trump responded to the NRA’s invitation to meet with him on the issue.

“I will be meeting with the NRA, who has endorsed me, about not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns,” Trump said.

Trump was asked in November 2015 by George Stephanopoulos, “Mr. Trump, yes or no, should someone on the terror watch list be allowed to buy a gun/”

“If somebody is on a watch list and an enemy of state and we know it’s an enemy of state, I would keep them away, absolutely,” Trump said.

Frankly, I find this troublesome for the reasons above. While I understand that if people are actually tied to terrorists (by this I mean those who are actually engaged in rhetoric and actions against our country), you want to keep them away from guns. However, they should be indicted and charges brought per the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution, not placed on a nebulous watchlist with no reason for doing so. Failing to do so, is not only a tyrannical act that violates rights protected under the Fifth Amendment, but also those protected under the Second Amendment.

Let’s stop infringing on people’s rights in the name of security and move back to government doing what it is supposed to do according to Romans 13:1-5 and allowing free men to remain free.

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  • June 21, 2016 at 3:06 am
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    NRA has compromised too fricking many times now. GOA Gun Owners OF America is the way to go.
    I’ll never join that pussy whipped Group again.

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  • June 22, 2016 at 5:45 am
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    No fly no buy is still and infringement on the second amendment. The NRA should move it’s headquarters to North Korea or East Germany instead of the US.

    One problem foreseeable with no fly lists is that anyone now or soon might not be able to leave the country if they refuse to pay a criminal fine they’re falsely accused of. And that one good or evil shouldn’t have to keep being everyone’s unarmed victim defenseless patsy also.

    So I also say give a bad guy a gun. And then kill him right away when he uses it to harm or kill others. What’s wrong with that policy of innocent until proven guilty for everyone good or evil until where a person or property destruction,damage or abuse did occur? That should thin out the heard of weeds and bad evil men. Because who really wants to kill a man who doesn’t have and hold a weapon in a truly dangerous damaging provable way? Like Hollywood does in just about every action movie but they aren’t damaging anyone by acting, and all the world is a stage . At least until someone really gets hurt,injured,abused,battered or killed. Then if you don’t shoot and kill them while they are in the process of harming or killing others? Then you have to give them a fair trial and pay for them to live it up in the lap of luxury of America’s Prison Industrial System where bad evil men often recruit even more men to become worse bad evil men for just about any cause.

    15 years ago the NRA had a chance to defend me and my gun rights and the NRA did nothing so I never advocated supporting them after that.
    Last November GOA was given bombshell already winnable Federal Level Court evidence that also had something to do with me and my life and gun rights circumstances at Federal Level and GOA didn’t even reply to ME ABOUT my 9 page letter I sent FBI/NICS,them at GOA,my Congressman and Ron Paul’s Liberty web sight . I even posted that whole letter on Discus comments on Alex Jones news comments section. And not a soul anywhere was able to pick that information up and say something to me like,”come on,I’ll show you the way you can clear you name off that DECLINED FBI/NICS list. What they have you do is engage in even more criminal activity that your suppose to go to the State Police to ask them about what information they have on your healthcare or medical whereabouts that none of them at the State Police are even 12 year psyche doctor trained to have,hold,interpret and receiving or sharing that information with anyone violates HEALTH INFORMATION PRIVACY PROTECTION ACT Law HIPPA.

    So in my life for the last 20 years. No felony crime. No damage to person or property. Other then anyone ego getting hurt and that doesn’t count as any real crime. I get my concealed weapons permit card that had several years left on it taken from me no judge,no jury,no court,no trial. No NRA and no GOA then too. And then I get treated worse then a US soldier and even worse then a Veteran who the US government gave firearms to and I can’t even buy a used one basically because I became a Christian 20 years ago and everything in the world is against that and them who are that now. So I was fine in everyone’s eyes being a gun owner before I became a Christian and started saying and doing things as the Bible taught me. But it wasn’t ok for me to have or buy a gun after I became a Christian.

    I wish they would just come right out at me face to face one at a time and tell me anything that violates my God given rights and inheritance from the Kingdom of God and HEAVEN anywhere here on earth where I am or have been or will be! Then we’ll get some matters settled! Because nobody and no group,agency,department,government,military,police or even law now is really doing anything to help the ones in the world or society who are the most needing that right to self defense (at least for themselves).

    So it’s like Jesus said paraphrased and undated,”If you aren’t with us gathering (including weapons of self defense)? You are against us and you’re spreading them abroad.”

    That same goes for the NRA and GOA too. Whoever any of them are there who do not help gather firearms or weapons of self defense to them or anyone else here also? And whoever at NRA and GOA who does not help any America born USA land owning man keep their firearms with them here in the United States? Then they are actually helping pay for and help others like the Bushs,Clintons,Holder and Lynch and DOJ ship guns to Mexico,Arab Spring,Benghazi and US proxie in Syria etc.

    Bottom line is you know who’s with you and what basic needs you might have and who’s actually for you vs who is not.

    If you’re on the side of the Righteousness of Christ and any correct side of history,past,present future with Christ and that Way Truth and Life also? Then at least God is always with you and will never forsake you even if all else and everyone else does….HE will not.

    If you are strong or have many contacts or much wealth and ability in this life at this time? Then stand with a weak or cast down brother or weak or cast down fellow countryman today. The reward you’ll get in your heart for doing that right thing of helping anyone weak,cast down,forsaken or ostracized from society is a reward that you’ll know and feel in this life and the next. Just like the story of the good Samaritan.

    Between the NRA and GOA? Both need money but the NRA pushes for it alot more. Both are political. But GOA does a world of a better job politically and keeping men informed of the most current and most up to date news out of Washington. Larry Pratt of GOA has repeatedly been on Infowars and that to me makes him seem more personable,interactive,more informed and I like the way Larry carries and handles himself in conversations or debates. That said the closest guy or advocate for the NRA I ever heard on Infowars was Ted Nugent. Another great guy. But he’s not spot on about the NRA. Not past and not current NRA. That said. I don’t know a single soul at the NRA who is charge or running things. Not years past and still don’t know anyone currently. My God teaches me He’s about relationship/s. And quite frankly I feel like I had more of a relationship with Larry Pratt and GOA. But my one true God in Christ came in both Spirit and real mans body to help seek and save that which was lost,taken,stolen,repossessed, and “held for safe keeping” the government will tell you also. Hey government. How about all those years I had and still have guns that have been,”held right here with me in safekeeping” wherever I am,have been or was? Don’t I get any CREDIT for all those years all those guns where in my possession I had and have access to? Held by me, myself and I all alone even without any current Obama Bank run away with the UN policy gun grab government FBI Quantaco VA trained local sheriff now holding some of my guns, “for safe keeping.” Is someone saying or implying to me or anyone else out there that my guns for all those years were not held by me in safe keeping” or safest keeping because that local sheriff says, “he’s holding them for safe keeping?

    Well I’m telling him now and here and any way else any other also wants to get involved. That is no longer allowed for him to do that. Me and my family and this camps property MUST be returned at once. At least one other gun had been taken that had nothing to do with anyone or anything that night. But sticky fingers Customs Border Patrol kid had to have at that anyway didn’t he? Wait till you see what letter agreement I have Notarized from back in 2008. Paul LePage my governor already got a copy. I’ll be sure to bring it up in Court also. US government: You and your Nazi kleptomaniac pandering thugs will be reaping heapingful measures of shame and contempt and charges and claims the more you try to use deception and manipulation against me (my Body) and my my Family and My Great God’s Kingdom Business right here on earth! Fair warning. Put back what was stolen!!! And the Thief might not have to pay the entire sevenfold. Proverbs 6:31

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